Holocaust order 1/24/39 documents and info. , under construction, but accurate so far

When did Hitler order the Holocaust? I say it’s before 1  Sept 1939, invasion of Poland but I have more research to do. However, I did stumble upon this:

*Goering letter to Heydrich, authorizing Final Solution, 1/24/39, long before the attack on Poland. “Assigned to you by the decree…”

Whose decree? Only Hitler could decree anything.

“On September 12, 1939, deliberations took place in Hitler’s train, in Poland, among the chiefs of the Wehrmacht. Ribbentrop (91) attended them with the military men. The question of the extermination of diverse categories of the population in Poland was brought up in the sense that Hitler wanted. Lahousen, present at these conversations, testified before the Nuremberg Tribunal that the general directive was to exterminate in Poland “the intellectuals, the nobility, the clergy and, naturally, the Jews.” This vague glimpse of Hitler’s conceptions at that moment was to be sufficient for Himmler and Heydrich to isolate the most evident point which could be begun in its totality, that is, the treatment of the Jews. Heydrich prepared a long term plan of action which he communicated on September 22, 1939 (PS-3363), to the chiefs of his mobile killing units in Polish territory”. (http://www.holocaust-history.org/klarsf … T045.shtml )

Himmler had authority Oct 1939 to do whatever it took to fulfill Hitler’s wishes.

Dec  1941, ICRC refused entry to camps by German Red Cross. which was led … by  a NAZI.

Chilean dispatch was Nov 24, 1941. I posted it somewhere on the blog. This was intercepted by the British. Anthony Eden gave a speech to the House of Commons, March 42.


After invasion of Soviet Union, 22 June 1941


Docu T/179
Berlin, July 31, 1941
To Gruppenführer Heydrich:
Supplementing the task assigned to you by the decree of January 24, 1939, to solve the Jewish problem by means of emigration and evacuation in the best possible way according to present conditions, I hereby charge you to carry out preparations as regards organizational, financial, and material matters for a total solution (Gesamtlösung) of the Jewish question in all the territories of Europe under German occupation.
Where the competency of other central organizations touches on this matter, these organizations are to collaborate.
I charge you further to submit to me as soon as possible a general plan of the administrative material and financial measures necessary for carrying out the desired final solution (Endlösung) of the Jewish question.

…and Eichmann’s offhand comment on it:
“We can attribute it to the period when emigration was no longer possible, and the radical solution began.”


2) During an “action” against Jews on the Eastern Front during the war, an SS man named Max Täubner was brought up on criminal charges for, as an officer, shooting Jews himself, as well as photographing the “action” and showing the photos to people back in Berlin. He was tried before an SS court in Munich, which rendered its verdict on May 24, 1943. The judge wrote, in part:

“The accused shall not be punished because of the actions against the Jews as such. The Jews have to be exterminated and none of the Jews that were killed is any great loss. Although the accused should have recognized that the extermination of the Jews was the duty of Kommandos which were set up especially for this purpose, he should be excused for considering himself to have the authority to take part in the extermination of Jewry himself.”

If there was no program to exterminate the Jews, then what was this judge in Munich talking about when he rendered his verdict?

(1) By the end of 1942 *(revised 23 and 31 march 1943), Nazi statistician Richard Korherr estimated that 2.5 million Jews had already been killed since the beginning of the war. The so-called Reinhard camps would continue to operate into the following year, Kulmhof (Chelmno)would not close until 1944, and Auschwitz-Birkenau stopped killing prisoners in November 1944. Given the census that the Nazis themselves took for their conference at Wannsee, chaired by SS General Reinhard Heydrich, in January 1942 — a census that concludes that there were, at that time, 11 million Jews in Europe and areas under Jewish control (primarily North Africa and the Middle East), is it ridiculous to suggest that the number of Jews killed could have been at least twice that many by May 8, 1945?

I thank you in advance for your responses.

Andrew E. Mathis, Ph.D.


things to be looked up:

2 Sept 1939, Hitler speech on Poland and Jews.** Still have yet to look for it.

Bernberg: Where they sent Jews and POWs in Buchenwald to be gassed.


*****Wolfgang Benz, German historian, claims Total: 6,276,081 to 6,286,081 number of Jews killed.
“Dimensions of People Murder”, loose translation of Volkersmords.

So, Himmler had the power in Oct. 1939 to do what he ‘deemed necessary’. The gassing of Jews began 8 Dec 1941, CHELMNO. The numbers of how many died at Chelmno seem to be uncertain, between 145,000-173.799 by April 1943 (see USHMM).

Beate Klarsfeld’s excellent site.

Soviet Union attacked 22 June, 1941. .

March 30, 1942: Hitler orders them to starve the people of the  Soviet Union that came under Nazi rule.

May 41, Dr. Brack, “It was no secret Jews were to be exterminated”.  Dr. Brack was a member of the Euthanasia program.

20 May 1941, Schellenberg and Heydrich ban ALL Jewish emigration, prior to June 41 attack on the Soviet Union.

Jewish emigration from France and Belgium STOPPED. 1941 OCTOBER. This is prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor and NIGHT AND FOG, Dec 7, 1941.

Note, ‘evacuation’ therefore CANNOT mean emigration

It is Nazi code for ‘extermination’. PROVED

*** the Grand Mufti influenced Hitler and Himmler and Heydrich
To speed  up the Final Solution.
The Grand Mufti met with Hitler 28, Nov 1941




2 Responses to “Holocaust order 1/24/39 documents and info. , under construction, but accurate so far”

  1. chris Says:

    As early as 1938, Raymond Geist knew that Gestapo’s plans for German Jews was extermination (see “The Architect of Genocide: Himmler and The Final Solution,” Richard Breitman, New York, 1991, p. 64)…he even sent warnings in early 1939 to the US gov’t…there are eyewitness accounts from aboard the infamous train ride through Poland in Sept. ’39 that Hitler, Himmler and Heydrich all made references to extermination (ibid, p. 70-71)…lots of good stuff in Breitman’s book

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