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07/12/2009 by paolosilv

To any denying idiot, here is one of the top Nazis admitting it himself.

es francais:
It also offers a revealing exchange involving Pope Pius XII, who some historians say did not use his influence to halt the killing of Jews. The conversation, relayed by an Ecuadorian envoy, was between the Vatican ambassador and Marshal Henri-Philippe Pétain, the French collaborationist leader. Over lunch at a Vichy hotel in July 1942, Marshal Pétain said he was consoled that the pope approved his policy of deporting Jews. The ambassador corrected him, saying, “The Holy Father does not approve.”

In a subsequent meeting, the ambassador delivered the pope’s personal appeal to stop the persecutions, but, the report said, Marshal Pétain agreed “only to limit the ongoing deportations to foreign Jews living in the occupied zone of France.”

http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-04.html

holocaust in romania

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/balkanhr/message/7146

Your own leader admitted it, sorry.
Goebbels, corrupt? By 1936, although he was not nearly as corrupt as some other senior Nazis, such as Göring and Robert Ley, Goebbels was earning 300,000 Reichsmarks a year in “fees” for writing in his own newspaper, Der Angriff, as well as his ministerial salary and many other sources of income. These payments were in effect bribes from the papers publisher Max Amann. He owned a villa by the lake at Wannsee and another on Lake Constance in the south, which he spent 2.2 million Reichsmarks refurbishing.

paolosilv (5 months ago) Remove | Spam Marked as spam In her book Into That Darkness, Gitta Sereny recounts her
conversations with Treblinkas commandant Franz Stangl. He had been
arrested in Brazil and extradited to Germany. She asked him, What did
you think at the time was the reason for the exterminations? He
answered bluntly, They [the Nazis] wanted the Jews money.
You cant be serious, she said.
But of course. Have you any idea of the fantastic sums that were
involved? Thats how the steel in Sweden was bought. ”

During World War II, though Austrians only constituted eight percent of the Third Reich’s population, Austrians comprised fourteen percent of the SS and forty percent of Nazi personnel involved in genocide.

Royalty at Dachau
Antonia, Crown Princess of Bavaria
Albrecht, Duke of Bavaria
Franz, Duke of Bavaria
Prince Max, Duke in Bavaria
Philipp, Landgrave of Hesse
Franz Wittelsbach, Prinz von Bayern
Maximilian, Duke of Hohenberg
Prince Ernst von Hohenberg
Princess Sophie of Hohenberg
Prince Xavier de Bourbon-Parma

http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/185155/auschwitz_oven_builders_scrutinized_at_exhibition/index.html

Here the descendant of a Nazi engineer speaks out. I wonder what deniers have to say about this.

http://www.holocaustchronicle.org/StaticPages/208.html

Gassings and euthanasia of the mentally ill at Hadamar. I notice deniers don’t talk about this too much. It shows that even the Vatican spoke out on the issue. December 1940: The Vatican condemns Nazi “mercy killings” of “unfit Aryans” as “contrary to both natural and divine law.” This was the staff who later went on to complete the Holocaust. This is proof that hasn’t been generally shown to be relevant.

More on OdiloGlobocnick, in charge of Action Reinhardt: from
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=64269&start=15

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The total value of these items amounts to approximately 180,000,000 RM according to the attached list [Document NO-062, Prosecution Exhibit 489.]. The lowest value was taken as a basis so that the total amount is probably twice as high, apart from the value of the received items which are short, such as textiles of which more than 1,900 wagons had been delivered to German industry.

[Signed] GLOBOCNIK
SS Gruppenfuehrer and Major General of the Police

Werner Dubois admitted during the trial his guilty part in the extermination of the Jews, his court testimony at Hagen read:
it is clear to me that in the extermination camp, murder was committed. What I have done was only to assist in the murder. If I were to be found guilty it would be justified, murder is murder.

We are all guilty. The camp had a chain of command and if one link in the chain were to refuse to co-operate then the whole system would collapse. We did not have the courage to disobey orders.

Von Papen, Schacht the banker, Krupp, and Von Schroeder: the men behind the Third Reich

German historian Hans-Ulrich Wehler supported Irvings imprisonment under the grounds that The denial of such an unimaginable murder of millions, one third of whom were children under the age of 14, cannot simply be accepted as something protected by the freedom of speech.[212] By contrast Deborah Lipstadt argued that Irving should not be imprisoned for expressing views that she finds odious and wrong.[
paolosilv (4 months ago) Remove | Spam Marked as spam These events are all the more shocking to those who remember that the country was once a sort of Jewish promised land. Lithuanias capital, Vilnius, was known as the Jerusalem of the North. About one third of its population in the 1920s and 30s was Jewish. Yiddish was in the air then. Synagogues welcomed the faithful. Cafes overflowed with young Jewish painters, writers, and poets. Vilna, as the city is called in Yiddish, was the seat of intellectual, spiritual, and artistic life for Eastern European Jewry.

All of that is long gone, destroyed by the Nazi war machine with the active assistance, in a dark chapter for Lithuania, of many local collaborators. Vilnius today has only one synagogue.

This is what they wanted to destroy/
paolosilv (5 months ago) Remove | Spam Marked as spam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBOG2pqDaug&feature=related
Didn’t happen?

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=397&start=0

Korherr Report : Nazis’ own statistics on the subject, spg 1943..
Franz v Papen: 1960 Titel Geheimer Kammerherr durch Papst Johannes XXIII.
The man who brought Hitler to power, 1933, blessed by the Pope in 1960

Proof that the Waffen SS was implicated in the Holocaust: ‘Fegelein: As a component of Himmlers Kommandostab RFSS, Fegelein’s Waffen-SS cavalry unit murdered tens of thousands of Jewish civilians in the Pripyet Marshes area of White Russia during the late summer of 1941. Thus Fegelein was a Waffen-SS commander directly implicated in the Holocaust.

http://www.gadsdentimes.com/article/20090504/NEWS/905049993/1017/NEWS?Title=World-War-II-veteran-recalls-liberation-of-death-camp

Liberator
Kammler, you bastard.The archivist at Modern Military Records in Maryland told you that Hans Kammler had been “redlined.” Can you explain what that means?

I made a lot of inquiries through her, and she found it extraordinary, given what I told her about Kammler—I had to tell her about Kammler—that there was absolutely nothing on him in the National Archive, given that just about everything he was doing should have been documented in the files somewhere. The fact that there was nothing on him was therefore highly suspicious, and in her view tended to support the theory that he’d been redlined. In other words, somebody had gone in and cleared out any meaningful documents on him.

Kammler, quote: http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/search?q=kammler%2C+hans

The Holocaust on Trial, DD Guttenplan, p. 197. Horthy protests that he can’t annihilate the Jews. Ribbentrop says, “The Jews must either be annihilated or taken to concentration camps. There was no other way.” Hitler says, at this meeting, “If they couldn’t work , they had to perish. They had to be treated like tuberculosis bacilli, from which a healthy body could be infected. That was not cruel…” David Irving altered the facts in his book Hitler’s war, by neglecting to record this part of the conversation. This proves that Hitler ordered the Holocaust.

Extremely informative page. However, it seems that people think that all of the victims of Hitler’s madness were Jews. This is a common misperception since he also killed Poles, Mentally challenged, POW’s, and others. From what I have studied about the history of the NSDAP(National Socialist Party) National Socialism in and of itself is not a bad thing, but Hitler and his cronies took the concept of National Socialism way too far.

Hitler speech, Dec 12 1941, to the Gauleiters, p212, The Holocaust on Trial, Guttenplan. Hitler makes clear his intentions are extermination. Christopher Browning, “We have a very accurate list of the deportation trains from Germany. In many cases we have the entire roster name by name and we are not floundering”. (213). In terms of the census from Poland, they have the figures; it is only the figures from the ex Soviet Union of which they are uncertain.
Atlantic magazine, May 2009, has an indepth review of these books: “The BBC beamed detailed descriptions of the workings of the death camps to Germany in 1942″. “Hard information, not just vague rumor, was being brought back to the Reich and was available. Its extent was considerable… only the willfully ignorant could have imagined a drastically different fate for the Jews than was actually in store for them”. “The White Rose” student resistance movement in Munich declared in its 1942 manifesto that 300,000 Jews had been killed in Poland, a crime ‘unparallelled in the whole of history”. So there, the idea that no one knew is nonsense. The US and British govt knew during the course of the war.

new books :The Third Reich at War, Richard Evans, Penguin books; Life and Death in the Third Reich, Peter Fritzsche, Harvard; Germany and the Second World War, Jorge Echternkamp, Oxford; Hitler, the Germans and the Final Solution, Ian Kershaw, Yale.
paolosilv (1 month ago) Remove | Spam Marked as spam Hans Kammler: He was an SS general who by the end of the Second World War, was in charge of the Nazi’s secret-weapons programs. He was an extremely powerful man. He was up to his neck in the Holocaust as well, and amongst his earlier responsibilities, he had been one of the main architects of the death camps. Now, at the end of the war, he disappeared.”….”What is remarkable about Kammler is that so few people know his name.” Into the Black, the Atlantic Magazine, Sept 5, 2005, Nick Cook.

Uki Goni, excellent journalist on escaped Nazis:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=uki+goni&search_type=&aq=f

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=43317&start=30

Kammler references in books

07/12/2009 by paolosilv

At Dora-Mittelbau near Nordhausen, thousands of prisoners dug tunnels in the rock in 1943 to prepare underground storage facilities for the V-2 missiles that would rain down on London a year later. They lived and slept in the choking dust without water or ventilation. During the first six months, almost 3,000 of 17,000 prisoners died. “Never mind the human victims, ” said SS Brigade-Fuehrer Hans Kammler, the commander of the operation. “The work must proceed and be finished in the shortest possible time.” p. 83, Krueger’s Men, by Lawrence Malkin.
paolosilv (56 minutes ago) Remove | Spam Marked as spam May 6, ‘43, Kammler visited Mauthausen-Gusen camps in Austria, as did Speer on a different date. Hence , Speer lied: he not only knew about the Holocaust but had a part in its organization. The proof only came out recently, long after he was dead. He avoided being hanged, narrowly.

The following books contain not one reference to Hans Kammler:

Tusa, Nuremberg Trials
Novick, Holocaust in American life
Kaplan, Between Dignity and Despair
Lukacs, Hitler of History
Read, Devil’s Disciples
Bascomb, Hunting Eichmann
Kater, Hitler’s Gift
Stackelberg, Hitler’s Germany
Burleigh, Third Reich
Benz, A concise history of the Third Reich
Elon, Pity of it All
Evans, Coming of the Third Reich
Stern, Five Germanys I have known

Demjanjuk Trial, Munich; Wiesenthal list of existing Nazis

07/12/2009 by paolosilv

Court hears charges against Nazi camp suspect

Tuesday, Dec 01, 2009 5:50PM UTC

By Madeline Chambers

MUNICH, Germany (Reuters) – Prosecutors accused John Demjanjuk on Tuesday of knowingly herding thousands of Jews to their deaths in the Nazi-run Sobibor extermination camp and standing by as victims screamed in fear.

Propped up under a white sheet on a mobile bed in a Munich court, the 89-year-old former U.S. carworker closed his eyes or stared into space as prosecutors charged him with helping to kill 27,900 Jews in what may be Germany’s last major Nazi-era war crimes trial.

Demjanjuk, who denies a role in the Holocaust, has not said anything in the first two days of the trial and his family says he is too frail to be in court.

Tuesday’s afternoon session was cut short after he gestured with his hands. A medic attended him and asked that the session be ended.

The shortened session included emotional testimony from the relatives of people who died at the camp in Poland. Many believed their parents and siblings were being taken away for hard labor instead of to a camp set up to kill.

Demjanjuk denies having worked at Sobibor but prosecutors have said they will present evidence proving he was there during 1943 when tens of thousands of Jews were exterminated.

State prosecutor Hans-Joachim Lutz told the court Demjanjuk would have known the purpose of the camp soon after arriving if not before.

“At the same time, he did not escape from the camp, although he had the chance to do so when he was off duty, or on duty outside the camp. He possessed a gun which would have made escape possible,” Lutz told the court.

With relatives of the victims looking on, Lutz said Demjanjuk had been involved in the “process of extermination” because he had stood by with his gun as Jews were taken off trains, made to undress and pushed into gas chambers.

“In the time between March 1943 to mid-September 1943, he, along with others, therefore knowingly ensured that the victims named had no possibility of escape, but were instead put to death in gas chambers or were shot,” he added.

“He therefore willingly participated in the murders of at least 27,900 people who were brought to Sobibor in the 15 trains from the Netherlands, as well as in other transports.”

In the morning session, Demjanjuk, wearing a black leather jacket, grey top and a baseball cap, began waving his hand in what appeared to be an attempt to form the sign of the cross over his head and shoulders.

The court adjourned briefly after about 80 minutes while Demjanjuk was laid on his side, facing the presiding judge with his head turned away from the rest of the court.

Not long after the break, the judge gave Demjanjuk an opportunity to respond to the charges, but he gave no obvious sign of response. His lawyer, Ulrich Busch, told the court they had agreed he would not speak at this point.

Demjanjuk was born in Ukraine and fought in the Soviet army before being captured by the Nazis and recruited as a camp guard. He emigrated to the United States in 1951.

In May, he was extradited from the United States where he had lived in a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio.

Demjanjuk has acknowledged being at other camps but not at Sobibor, which prosecutors say was run by between 20 and 30 members of the Nazi SS and up to 150 Soviet former prisoners of war.

In the Sobibor gas chambers, Jews died within 20 to 30 minutes after inhaling a toxic mixture of carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide, prosecutors said. Groups of about 80 were forced into gas chambers measuring about 4 by 4 meters.

Screams, cries and banging could be heard from outside as panic gripped the victims, the prosecutors added.

During the proceedings, at least two elderly co-plaintiffs were led out for medical treatment.

David van Huiden, 78, a Dutch Jew whose family was killed in Sobibor, told the court he managed to avoid the same fate because his parents sent him out to walk their dog minutes before Nazis arrested them and his 18-year-old sister.

Rudolf Salomon, 70, told of a final letter from his mother, who was killed in a Sobibor gas chamber, that he found in 1959. She had thrown it out of a train, hoping someone would find it.

Salomon’s voice cracked in court as he mentioned the letter.

He later read from it to reporters: “It’s Monday evening and we’re ready to board the train. I promise I’ll be tough and I’ll definitely survive. Take care of my husband and son. I hope to see you soon.”

(Writing by Dave Graham and Erik Kirschbaum; editing by Andrew Dobbie)Nazi guard Demjanjuk wheeled into Munich trial

Monday, Nov 30, 2009 5:57PM UTC

By Madeline Chambers

MUNICH, Germany (Reuters) – John Demjanjuk was wheeled into a packed Munich court on Monday to face charges he helped kill 27,900 Jews during the Holocaust in what is likely to be Germany’s last major Nazi-era war crimes trial.

Lying on a mobile hospital bed, the expressionless 89-year-old former U.S. carworker complained of pain to medics in the afternoon session and was given an injection, causing a 30-minute delay in the proceedings.

German state prosecutors accuse Demjanjuk, who was top of the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s list of most-wanted war criminals, of assisting in killings at the Sobibor death camp in Poland, where prosecutors say at least 250,000 Jews were killed.

Demjanjuk denies he was involved in the Holocaust and his family insists he is too frail to stand trial.

But camp victims want justice.

“Justice takes a long time. I am not seeking revenge for Demjanjuk. He should tell the truth,” said co-plaintiff Thomas Blatt, whose family was killed at the camp in 1943 and who at 15 was ordered to sort out belongings of Jews sent to be gassed.

“Today is important because it is the last big international case that everyone is interested in.”

Efraim Zuroff, director of the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s Israel Office, told Reuters: “This is a good day for Germany, for justice and for people who lost love ones.”

Demjanjuk, brought into the court in a wheelchair in the morning, wore a blue cap and was motionless at the start of proceedings, his mouth occasionally dropping open.

Wrapped in a blanket, he was pale and his eyes were closed most of the time. He showed no expression and it was impossible to tell if he was aware of what was being said. For the afternoon session, Demjanjuk lay on a hospital bed.

Demjanjuk was born in Ukraine and fought in the Red Army before being captured by the Nazis and recruited as a camp guard. He emigrated to the United States in 1951, becoming a naturalized citizen in 1958, and worked in the auto industry.

In May, he was extradited from the United States where he had lived in a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio.

The prosecution is due to read the charges on Tuesday and Demjanjuk, who could be sentenced to spend the rest of his life behind bars, will have the chance to respond.

PRISONER OF WAR

Prosecutors plan to show the court documents they say prove he was at Sobibor and they will call about 20 witnesses.

Although he has acknowledged being at other camps, Demjanjuk has denied he was in Sobibor, which prosecutors say was run by 20-30 Nazi SS members and up to 150 former Soviet war prisoners.

In the Sobibor gas chambers, Jews died in 20 to 30 minutes after inhaling a toxic mix of carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide, say prosecutors, who argue Demjanjuk was at the camp for about six months in 1943.

His lawyers argue that Demjanuk was a Soviet prisoner of war whose life was in danger when he was recruited by the SS and point out many more senior Nazi camp officials were let off.

Defense lawyer Ulrich Busch put forward a motion that the court was prejudiced as people senior to Demjanjuk had previously been acquitted or not brought to trial.

To save his own life, a Trawniki (a prisoner recruited by the SS for camps) had to cooperate, Busch said. Some two thirds of Soviet prisoners of war died while in German captivity, mainly of starvation or disease.

“For this Trawniki (Demjanjuk) — nobody even knew what he did — to be deported or imported 7,000 km while others are left untouched, what is the reason for this?” said Busch, who accused the court of “moral and legal double standards”.

The court will decide by Wednesday whether to accept Busch’s petition.

“We will prove that a Ukrainian prisoner of war who escaped death by starvation, was forced to be a Trawniki, who could be shot if he tried to escape and against whom there is no evidence of a specific atrocity is also a victim and comparable to the Jewish survivor who worked in death machine of Sobibor in order to avoid death,” Demjanjuk’s son John said in a statement.

The afternoon session was dominated by information from three medical experts. The medical officer charged with assessing Demjanjuk said he was fit for trial. Due to his frailty, hearings are limited to two 90-minute sessions a day.

While the case has attracted enormous global interest, many Germans would prefer to draw a line under the Nazi past and focus on Germany’s new-found role on the world stage.

Demjanjuk was extradited from the United States to Israel in 1986, accused of being “Ivan the Terrible”, a notoriously sadistic guard at the Treblinka death camp. He was sentenced to death in 1988 but his conviction was overturned when new evidence showed another man was probably “Ivan”.

News of the trial dominated headlines in Israel but there was not the same degree of outpouring of emotion there was over his trial in Israel.

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FACTBOX: Wiesenthal Center’s top 10 WW2 war criminals

Monday, Nov 30, 2009 12:56AM UTC

(Reuters) – Accused Nazi death camp guard John Demjanjuk goes on trial in Munich on Monday to face charges he participated in the killing of 27,900 Jews in 1943.

Demjanjuk is number one on a list of 10 most-wanted war criminals compiled by the Simon Wiesenthal Center, according to a statement issued in April 2009. Here are details of the 10 accused and two further people accused but thought likely to be dead (*).

* ALOIS BRUNNER — Right-hand man to the Gestapo’s “technician of death” Adolf Eichmann, he helped organize deportations of Jews to death camps and would probably top the Center’s list of most-wanted Nazi criminals if it did not think the chances of his still being alive to be slim.

* ARIBERT HEIM — Heim killed hundreds at the Mauthausen concentration camp in Austria with injections of poison and removed organs from victims without anesthetic. Various media reported in February that he died in Cairo in 1992, aged 78. However the Center says that without conclusive forensic proof of his death, it is still not possible to close his case.

1. IVAN (JOHN) DEMJANJUK — Accused in 1977 of being the infamous “Ivan the Terrible,” a Treblinka extermination camp guard, he was extradited to Israel and sentenced to death, then freed on subsequent evidence.

Returning to the United States in 1993, his citizenship was revoked in 2002 after a U.S. court convicted him of working at three other camps. German prosecutors suspect him of helping in the deaths of 27,900 Jews at the Sobibor death camp. He was extradited to Germany in May 2009.

2. DR. SANDOR KEPIRO — Serbia’s war crimes prosecutor in 2008 requested an investigation into the Hungarian suspected of committing genocide against Jews and Serbs in World War Two.

Prosecutors said Kepiro is suspected of taking part in a raid by Hungarian forces in January 1942 in northern Serbia “when, in an attempt to destroy members of the Jewish and Serbian national groups, they killed at least 2,000 of them.”

Sentenced to 10 years in jail in 1944; that verdict, and his acquittal later the same year came when Hungary was under fascist rule and an ally of Nazi Germany. In 2007 a Hungarian court ruled he could not be investigated as his murder conviction had been overturned.

But the Budapest Chief Prosecutor’s Office reported that 95-year-old Kepiro was questioned in September about allegedly relaying orders to militia members under his command who killed four civilians in Novi Sad, Serbia, in 1942.

3. MILIVOJ ASNER — Alleged to have been a senior security official during the 1941-45 rule of Croatia’s pro-Nazi Ustasha regime, Asner says he ordered wartime deportations of Jews and Serbs to their homelands, not to death camps in Croatia.

Asner moved to Austria when a Nazi-tracking group found him living in Croatia in 2005. Austria previously rejected a Croatian extradition request on grounds that Asner’s physical and mental condition was fragile.

4. SOEREN KAM — The Danish-born former SS member is accused of helping Nazi forces in Denmark and of the 1943 murder of anti-Nazi Danish journalist Carl Henrik Clemmensen in Copenhagen.

Kam fled to Germany after the war, obtaining German citizenship in 1956. Following his 2006 arrest, a German court delayed a decision on his extradition to Denmark.

5. KLAAS CARL FABER — Accused of serving in the German Security Service in Holland, he was sentenced to death in Holland for murders of prisoners of Westerbork transit camp and Groningen prison in 1944; the sentence was commuted to life imprisonment in 1948. He escaped from prison to Germany in 1952.

6. HEINRICH BOERE — Accused of killing three Dutch civilians in 1944 as a member of an SS hit squad that targeted anti-Nazi resistance fighters, Boere confessed after being captured by U.S. forces.

Escaping to Germany, he was sentenced to death in absentia in Holland in 1949. After refusing a 1980 Dutch extradition request, a German court indicted him in April 2008.

Boere went on trial in Aachen on Oct 31, 2009.

7. KAROLY ZENTAI — Zentai is accused of killing Jewish teenager Peter Balazs in Budapest. At the time Zentai was a 23-year-old warrant officer in the pro-Nazi Hungarian military, but argues he left Budapest with his regiment the day before the murder in November 1944. Zentai is also accused of taking part in “manhunts, persecution, deportation and murder of Jews.

He emigrated to Australia in the early 1950s and was arrested by Federal Police in July 2005. An Australia court ruled last month that he was eligible for extradition to Hungary and the government approved the extradition on November 12. However Zentai’s son, Ernie Steiner, said his father would seek a judicial review of the court decision.

8. MIKHAIL GORSHKOW — Alleged to have been an interrogator for the Gestapo, he is accused of helping kill about 3,000 men, women and children in the Slutsk ghetto in Minsk, Belarus. Estonian-born Gorshkow became a U.S. citizen in 1953 but was denaturalized in 2002 and is under investigation in Estonia.

9. ALGIMANTAS DAILIDE — Dailide volunteered for Lithuania’s Nazi-backed secret police, the Saugumas, but said he was only a humble clerk. Entering the United States in 1950, he worked as a real estate agent. In March 2006 Lithuania convicted the then 86-year-old of handing over Jews attempting to flee from the Vilnius ghetto. They were subsequently murdered. A Lithuanian court sentenced him to five years in jail, but suspended his sentence due to his health.

10. HARRY MANNIL — The Caracas-based auto sales millionaire and member of Venezuelan high society is accused of arresting Jews and communists who were later executed by the Nazis while serving in Estonia’s political police force during the Nazi occupation. Cleared of the accusations by Estonia, he remains on a U.S. watch list barring him from entering the United States.

Hans Kammler, conclusion

07/11/2009 by paolosilv

The Case for Auschwitz, Van Pelt

FINALLY! Found info. on Hans Kammler in scholarly books!

The business of genocide : the SS, slave labor, and the concentration camps / Michael Thad Allen.
Allen, Michael Thad.

Call Number:
940.5318 ALLEN

ISBN:
0807826774 (alk. paper)

Publication Information :
Chapel Hill, N.C. : University of North Carolina Press, c2002.

133 Hans Kammler: Modern Engineering in the SS
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So, we’ve found out some more info.:

Himmler decided to use Jewish slave labor , Jan 1942.

Kammler went to Auschwitz-Birkenau, May 1942.

Kammler ordered the morgues to be converted into gas chambers.

He worked on the original blueprints, which did NOT have gas chambers.

Kammler decided to build the crematoria in early 1942.

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Christopher Simpson, “Blowback” on how the CIA recruited Nazis. It contains only one reference to Kammler, nothing about his role in Auschwitz-Birkenau.

In the Autumn of 1941, they began gassing people at Birkenau: Russian POWS.

In the summer of 1942, they extended the operation.

Himmler arrived at the camp.

At the David Irving trial, there were some references to Hans Kammler.
cf. The Holocaust on Trial, DD Guttenplan.

“A public outrcry against the Euthanasia institutes had forced Hitler to put an end to the gassings (of the mentally ill) in Germany”, p. 52, Van Pelt.

Pressac has a book on Auschwitz, with detailed plans.

The book, “The Third Reich” by M. Burleigh , p. 385, has a whole chapter on the euthanasia program.

Pope Pius XIII unequivocally condemned the ‘killing of life unworthy of life” on Dec 2, 1940.

Bishop Galen, Munster, protested vigorously the Nazi plans to mass murder people. p. 403, Burleigh.

The Grand Mufti, on Radio Berlin, urged “Jihad” against the British and the Jews during the War. source: Palestinians: A history.

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p. 29, Van Pelt

In late 1944, he general (Dornberger) reached an agreement with Himmler, head of the SS, under wihich the SS’s representative, Hans Kammler, took over day-to-day management at Nordhausen on the condition that selected Dornberger subordinates… retained their positions of authority at the facility”. At this facility, tens of thousands of slave workers died producing V-2 rockets to be sent to destroy London.

The US ended up “with the larger share of the scientific legacy of the Nordhausen complex”, including Dornberger and Von Braun. But no mention of Kammler’s fate. source: Blowback.

Van Pelt shows that “Kammler toured the stie of Auschwitz…and ordered that a peasant cottage there be converted into a gas chamber. Two months later, on July 4,1942, the first Jews from Slovakia were sorted out. Those who could work were admitted to the camp. Those who could not were killed in the peasant cottage, known now as Bunker I. (p. 72)

“Kammler decided to cancel two small incinerations in Birkenau and build there a large crematorium originally planned for the main camp. A gas chamber was created near crematorium I, and after that, in the fall of 1941, in two peasant cottages in the Birkenau forest”. (van Pelt, p. 217).

“In the summer of 1942 it was decided to extend enormously gassing operations and to improve them technically, entrusting the construction of huge crematoria to the firm of JA Topf and Sons at Erfurt… This was done just after SS Reichsfuhrer Himmler’s visit of inspection. The construction began immediately, and in the early months of 1943 four huge modern crematoria were ready for the use of the camp authorities; their fundamental and essential part consisted of a set of gas chambers of a type unknown before. These creamatoria were distinguished by the numbers 2, 3, 4, and 5. Crematoria 2 and 3 had underground areas, called on the construction drawing Nos. 932 and 933 of Jan. 28, Leichenkeller 1 and 2, both of which were intended for the gassing of human beings”. (p. 217, Van Pelt.)

under construction, Nov. 2009

03/11/2009 by paolosilv

Lt. Luigi Romersa
“Mission for Mussolini”, 2006 Video on History channel.

Italian Journalist witnessed Nazi ‘dirty bomb’ experiment, in which radiation was irradiated. Source: Rainer Karlsch, Hitler’s Bomb”.

Kurt Diebner, Nazi nuclear physicist and Hans Kammler exploded the bomb near Ohrdruf, Mar 3, 1945. 500 Russian Pows were incinerated while testing it. Kammler wanted a nuclear warhead for the V-2 bomb. The Soviets were used as ‘guinea pigs’ and died horribly.

The US ended up getting Diebner along with the other scientists. But the video, although it makes mention of Kammler, does not indicate his fate.

Mussolini acknowledged the bomb existed publicly, Dec 16,1944. He claimed Hitler’s ‘new weapons’ would be a ‘redemption’ for Fascists. He admitted there were three of them.
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Testimony of Pister , Commandant of Buchenwald:

“I heard the wrost things concerning the treatment of prisoners. Commandant Koch seemed to have been under the impression that he had the right to carry out mistreatments on his own initiative perhaps to save himself the trouble of making a report to the higher authorities.

I immediately issued an order that mistreatment would be severely punished. I referred to an order personally issued by the Fuhrer that read, “I am the one who decides about the life or death of a prisoner — also my representative appointed by myself (Himmler)”.

“For me, as for every man, orders were sacred and had to be carried out.”
Prosecutor: “Even thought you knew they were wrong, is that correct?”

“How should I know if an order given from the highest headquarters is illegal? Every one of us took an oath that we woudl follow the orders of the Fuhrer without hesitation… I let orders from above be carried out without hesitation.”
“You knew that according to the Hague Convention an occupying power must respect the rights and lives and religious convictions of persons living in the occupied zone, did you not?”

“First of all, I did not know the Hague Convention. Furthermore, I did not bring these people to Buchenwald.”

Justice at Dachau, Joshua Greene, 2003

You can see the self-rationalizations going on, the twisting of logic in order to save his neck. But at least he did admit who gave the orders to kill the people at Buchenwald : Hitler and Himmler. Case closed.

YouTranslation of documents on Hans Kammler, thanks to Diana

10/10/2009 by paolosilv

22.04.1945 Kammeler has an big argument with lieutenant Burger, who was an commandant of the German troops (Wehrmacht)in Obermmergau. At night 28.April Kammler took in with 600 soldiers a new residence for his staff. The residence of troups was between Oberammergau and Granswang. His residence was in Linderhof, then in Salzburg.

Last days of April/ first days of May 1945:

The last conferences in Ebensee and Salzburg about armament. They were just befor Kammler went in rush to Prague, where were factory of airplanes.
First days in Mai gave her wife capsules of potassium cyanide. They are for her and for children. He said to good bye: We will never see each other again.

05.05.1945 Kammeler was few days in Prague and the revolt shot at him, he survived, his driver was bad wounded

05.09.1945 travelled in convoy with German soldiers and together with general SS Pückler-Burghauss and his SS group “Der Führer“ (The Leader), left Prague, went on the south side of the town throw Eule (Jílové) and crossed over next to Davle the river Donau.

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I looked in three books on the Holocaust in the community college library, including the Making of the Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhodes, but they had scant info.

Holocaust order 1/24/39 documents and info. , under construction, but accurate so far

27/07/2009 by paolosilv

When did Hitler order the Holocaust? I say it’s before 1  Sept 1939, invasion of Poland but I have more research to do. However, I did stumble upon this:

*Goering letter to Heydrich, authorizing Final Solution, 1/24/39, long before the attack on Poland. “Assigned to you by the decree…”

Whose decree? Only Hitler could decree anything.

“On September 12, 1939, deliberations took place in Hitler’s train, in Poland, among the chiefs of the Wehrmacht. Ribbentrop (91) attended them with the military men. The question of the extermination of diverse categories of the population in Poland was brought up in the sense that Hitler wanted. Lahousen, present at these conversations, testified before the Nuremberg Tribunal that the general directive was to exterminate in Poland “the intellectuals, the nobility, the clergy and, naturally, the Jews.” This vague glimpse of Hitler’s conceptions at that moment was to be sufficient for Himmler and Heydrich to isolate the most evident point which could be begun in its totality, that is, the treatment of the Jews. Heydrich prepared a long term plan of action which he communicated on September 22, 1939 (PS-3363), to the chiefs of his mobile killing units in Polish territory”. (http://www.holocaust-history.org/klarsf … T045.shtml )

Himmler had authority Oct 1939 to do whatever it took to fulfill Hitler’s wishes.

Dec  1941, ICRC refused entry to camps by German Red Cross. which was led … by  a NAZI.

Chilean dispatch was Nov 24, 1941. I posted it somewhere on the blog. This was intercepted by the British. Anthony Eden gave a speech to the House of Commons, March 42.

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After invasion of Soviet Union, 22 June 1941

*****Goering:

Docu T/179
Berlin, July 31, 1941
To Gruppenführer Heydrich:
Supplementing the task assigned to you by the decree of January 24, 1939, to solve the Jewish problem by means of emigration and evacuation in the best possible way according to present conditions, I hereby charge you to carry out preparations as regards organizational, financial, and material matters for a total solution (Gesamtlösung) of the Jewish question in all the territories of Europe under German occupation.
Where the competency of other central organizations touches on this matter, these organizations are to collaborate.
I charge you further to submit to me as soon as possible a general plan of the administrative material and financial measures necessary for carrying out the desired final solution (Endlösung) of the Jewish question.
Göring

…and Eichmann’s offhand comment on it:
“We can attribute it to the period when emigration was no longer possible, and the radical solution began.”

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2) During an “action” against Jews on the Eastern Front during the war, an SS man named Max Täubner was brought up on criminal charges for, as an officer, shooting Jews himself, as well as photographing the “action” and showing the photos to people back in Berlin. He was tried before an SS court in Munich, which rendered its verdict on May 24, 1943. The judge wrote, in part:

“The accused shall not be punished because of the actions against the Jews as such. The Jews have to be exterminated and none of the Jews that were killed is any great loss. Although the accused should have recognized that the extermination of the Jews was the duty of Kommandos which were set up especially for this purpose, he should be excused for considering himself to have the authority to take part in the extermination of Jewry himself.”

If there was no program to exterminate the Jews, then what was this judge in Munich talking about when he rendered his verdict?

(1) By the end of 1942 *(revised 23 and 31 march 1943), Nazi statistician Richard Korherr estimated that 2.5 million Jews had already been killed since the beginning of the war. The so-called Reinhard camps would continue to operate into the following year, Kulmhof (Chelmno)would not close until 1944, and Auschwitz-Birkenau stopped killing prisoners in November 1944. Given the census that the Nazis themselves took for their conference at Wannsee, chaired by SS General Reinhard Heydrich, in January 1942 — a census that concludes that there were, at that time, 11 million Jews in Europe and areas under Jewish control (primarily North Africa and the Middle East), is it ridiculous to suggest that the number of Jews killed could have been at least twice that many by May 8, 1945?

I thank you in advance for your responses.

Andrew E. Mathis, Ph.D.

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things to be looked up:

2 Sept 1939, Hitler speech on Poland and Jews.** Still have yet to look for it.

Bernberg: Where they sent Jews and POWs in Buchenwald to be gassed.

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12680&start=75

*****Wolfgang Benz, German historian, claims Total: 6,276,081 to 6,286,081 number of Jews killed.
“Dimensions of People Murder”, loose translation of Volkersmords.

So, Himmler had the power in Oct. 1939 to do what he ‘deemed necessary’. The gassing of Jews began 8 Dec 1941, CHELMNO.

Proven.

Really the thing to find out is to go to Beate Klarsfeld’s excellent site. This seems to have everything on the subject. So that is my next endeavor.

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Soviet Union attacked 22 June, 1941. There ’s evidence that Hitler ordered the destruction of Soviet Jewry before this phase of the war began.

March 30, 1942: Hitler orders them to starve the people of the  Soviet Union that came under Nazi rule.

May 41, Dr. Brack, “It was no secret Jews were to be exterminated”.  Dr. Brack was a member of the Euthanasia program.

20 May 1941, Schellenberg and Heydrich ban ALL Jewish emigration, prior to June 41 attack on the Soviet Union.

Jewish emigration from France and Belgium STOPPED. 1941 OCTOBER. This is prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor and NIGHT AND FOG, Dec 7, 1941.

Note, ‘evacuation’ therefore CANNOT mean emigration

It is Nazi code for ‘extermination’. PROVED

*** the Grand Mufti influenced Hitler and Himmler and Heydrich
To speed  up the Final Solution. All you need to do is match up the dates he met with Himmler and Hitler with the dates of the Final Solution.

The Grand Mufti met with Hitler 28, Nov 1941

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So there you have it. Now the only thing I really have to do is prove Kammler’s involvement. I have a letter from Bischoff to Kammler. I seem to have lost the source. Oh well.

July 27, 2009. Propaganda

27/07/2009 by paolosilv

Wilfred von Oven press secretary to Goebbels. Died only last year in Argentina. (wikipedia)

“He died in Buenos Aires, Argentina, where he was living since 1951.”

See, this is what I wanted to know, if any of this b-ds are still around, or at least ones with culpability. There are still a few. I don’t mean the concentration guards, although they exist, I’m sure, but people more imp’t, or at least on whom one can find information.

Now look this guy knew Goebbels, and died a free man in Argentina. He may have never hurt anyone but still, shouldn’t he have received some kind of punishment ? He helped him scribble that propaganda. How happy he’d have died knowing that already people are denying the Holocaust.  How he could stomach being in the same room with that evil creep, is another question. I guess the food was a lot better in the Chancellory than on the Eastern front, eh?

http://www.hdot.org/en/trial/defense/evans/520diiiG

Now this is a fine example of how propaganda works. Who does David Irving quote? A: Wilfred Von Oven!!!!!!

40,000 died at Dresden,if you read carefully. Please note the footnote. “Dr Goebbels explained in the often mentioned “11-o’clock-midday conference” that 40,000 victims were to be lamented in Dresden.

“At the time one did not know yet that the figure was considerably higher.146

146. Quite the contrary, the number was suprisingly exact.”

Now I don’t want to get off-topic, but it shows that David Irving relies on dubious sources, like Von Oven.

http://www.hope-of-israel.org/promnazi.htm

Der Spiegel and Wilfred Von Oven.

16 PIECES OF EVIDENCE ON THE HOLOCAUST: SELECTED

25/07/2009 by paolosilv

IMPORTANT EVIDENCE ON THE HOLOCAUST:

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007387

This article gives a good summary of the Holocaust. US Hol. Museum

1. Wannsee conference , Jan 1942
http://www.einsatzgruppenarchives.com/wannsee.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUfHrYcBqKM

film, Night and Fog, reel 5 EXTREMELY DISTURBING FOOTAGE

http://www.answers.com/topic/wannsee-conference

more on Wannsee Conference, (1942) in which Heydrich laid out the plans for the Holocaust, ordered by the madman Hitler.

2. Nacht und Nebel (Night & Fog) Decree  (Dec 7, 1941) coupled with the beginning of gas operations at Chelmno, Poland. (Dec 8, 1941) and Hitler’s declaration of war on the USA.

On December 7th, 1941, SS Reichsführer Heinrich Himmler issued the following instructions to the Gestapo:

“After lengthy consideration, it is the will of the Führer that the measures taken against those who are guilty of offenses against the Reich or against the occupation forces in occupied areas should be altered. The Führer is of the opinion that in such cases penal servitude or even a hard labor sentence for life will be regarded as a sign of weakness. An effective and lasting deterrent can be achieved only by the death penalty or by taking measures which will leave the family and the population uncertain as to the fate of the offender. Deportation to Germany serves this purpose.”

3. Himmler, Poznan speech on the Holocaust. He often used Jews and ‘partisans’ as interchangeable words. (1943) This occurred after “Action Reinhardt“, or the killing of the Jews of the “General Gouvernement” of Poland was completed. Over one and a half million Jews died during this period in a number of camps in Poland.

http://www.holocaust-history.org/himmler-poznan/speech-text.shtml

“Jewish mortality thus amounts to 80-85(against the European average of 10 to 15) in 1000 (in the calendar year 1942).”  Nazi’s own (Dec 1942, 23 March 1943, 31 March 1943 updated) Korherr Report. http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=397&start=0

 4. http://www.deathcamps.org/occupation/auschwitzmen.html

Auschwitz perpetrators, grisly reading

http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/topf/

 Topf  and Sons designed the crematoria. (see: Topf und zohne)

Auschwitz Birkenau , gas chambers (vergassenkellar)

http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/185155/auschwitz_oven_builders_scrutinized_at_exhibition/index.html

This is an amazing Article on the engineers of Auschwitz birkenau. Topf and sons.

(1) In a letter written January 29, 1943, to SS Colonel Hans Kammler, Karl Bischoff, an SS captain and architect at Auschwitz-Birkenau, mentions a room in Krema II at Auschwitz-Birkenau that he refers to as a “Vergasungskeller.” He is referring to the room that the blueprints for Krema II designate as a “Leichenkeller” (morgue). It has been suggested that the “Vergasungskeller” could have been a gas production cellar or a gas attack shelter for the Nazis. However, it would have been foolish to place a gas production cellar so close to the crematory ovens in Krema II, and certainly the word for a gas attack shelter would have the word “Schutz” in there somewhere. Complicating the matter is the fact that a letter from Erhard Wetzel, a Nazi adviser on Jewish Affairs, to Heinrich Lohse, Reichkommissar for Ostland, stationed at Riga, mentions the “Vergasungsapparate” that had been used in the T-4 Euthanasia program in Berlin. So clearly “Vergasung” can mean “to kill with gas.”

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/search?q=kammler%2C+hans

5. http://www.einsatzgruppenarchives.com/trials/sandberger.html

Martin Sandberger, involved in Holocaust in Latvia, his sworn testimony. For his crimes he was sentenced to life, but was released in 1958 (he served under 10 years). He may still be alive, but he would be about 99 years old.

http: //abcnews.go.com/International/Story?id=7643897&page=1

“Q. You collected these Jews, according to the basic order, didn’t you, the Hitler Order?

A. Yes.

Q. And then they were shot; they were shot; isn’t that right?

“A. Yes.”  On “Hitler’s Orders”, he states.

6. Hitler’s European Helpers (hiwis). These are the Baltic and E.  European murderers who helped Hitler.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1kCEnCaT4M&feature=related

video on Baltics and the Jews who died there
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,625824,00.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/618980.stm

Holocaust in Latvia

7.  http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/revolt/zabecki.html

http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/ar/Trawniki/trawnikiInterrogations.html

Treblinka, heroic Polish station master made copies of train arrivals and departures

8.  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Mauthausen/Gas%20Chamber/Gas01.html

*Mauthausen, gas chamber. Mauthausen was used as was as “Hartheim”, which is where the Nazis gassed the disabled and retarded, and others. I notice deniers don’t want to talk about euthanasia that also took place at Hartheim,  Hadamar and gas vans.**  It is claimed that up to 31,000 were gassed at Mauthausen and Hartheim during the final years of the war.

9 http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/goebbels-joseph/goebbels-1948-excerpts-01.html

Dr Goebbels’ diary. This shows exact quotations that he knew that the Holocaust occurred and was responsible for it, in part. To me , this is the most damning evidence.

Goebbels on the Jewish Question
(December 13, 1941)

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Regarding the Jewish question, the Fuehrer is determined to clean the table. He prophesized that should the Jews once again bring about a world war, they would be annihilated. These were no empty words. The world war has come, therefore the annihilation of the Jews has to be its inevitable consequence. The question has to be examined without any sentimentality. We are not here to pity Jews, but to have pity for our own German people. If the German people have sacrificed about 160,000 dead in the battles in the east, the instigators of this bloody conflict will have to pay for it with their lives.

Goebbels diaries, Part II, Volume 2, pg. 498 – entry for December 13, 1941

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Source: Kaye, Ephraim. Desecraters of Memory: Confronting Holocaust Denial. Yad Vahsem — International School of Holocaust Studies, Jerusalem (1997).

10. http://www.einsatzgruppenarchives.com/mt/exhibit194.html

from the (einsatzgruppen’s) Murderers ‘ own archives

11. www.holocaust-history.org/operation-reinhard/final-destination-treblinka

The Destruction of the Jews, “Aktion Reinhardt” , which was the attempt to destroy most of the Jews in one and one half years (1942 – November 1943); Treblinka

12. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/balkanhr/message/7146

Holocaust in the Balkans aka Yugoslavia and Greece 1943-4. Accused Nazi Kurt Waldheim was present in the area during the commission of these crimes. He served as an ‘Intelligence Officer’ on the Partisans. Did he have anything to do with the “Jewish question?”

Jasenovac camp in Croatia where they estimate 16-20,000 Jews died.

In Serbia, the Serbian authorities cooperated and made Belgrade “Judenfrei” : Jew-free, the first city to have done so. Thousands of Jews were rounded up and deported to Nazi -run camps one of which was called “Sajmiste“. Much more American and Israeli-led research needs to be done on the Holocaust in Yugoslavia. I didn’t even know about any of this until recently, that’s how little attention it had received.

13. http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-04.html

more on Auschwitz -Birkenau camp. I don’t believe enough is spoken about Birkenau’s role in the process.

http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/leuchter/leuchter-faq-20.html

This shows an estimate of how many Jews is believed to have died during the Holocaust, and why: here it claims 5.7 million Jews. Methodology is shown.
Raul Hilberg estimated 5.1 million Jews died, but he didn’t count the nations of the former Soviet Union due to the Cold War being on. So it could very well be OVER six million!

The Holocaust was horrendous, and on a bigger scale than anyone can comprehend. The Commandant at Auschwitz-Birkenau was not allowed to register and keep accurate figures on how many people were gassed, but it is estimated at 1.1 million at A-B. Eichmann reported to Himmler that Six million Jews were killed altogether – and this was in 1944! The war went on till May 8, 1945. 

So you can see why it’s important to fight this ‘denial‘, because due to the lack of registration,they can never know exactly how many Jews and others were murdered at Auschwitz birkenau

http://www.holocaustchronicle.org/StaticPages/208.html

http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/euthan/hadamar.html

14.  Gassings and euthanasia of the mentally ill at Hadamar. I notice deniers don’t talk about this too much. It shows that even the Vatican spoke out on the issue. December 1940: The Vatican condemns Nazi “mercy killings” of “unfit Aryans” as “contrary to both natural and divine law.” This was the staff who later went on to complete the Holocaust. This is proof that hasn’t been generally shown to be relevant. I put more about this in the ‘comments’ section here.

Extremely important:
HADAMAR WAS LOCATED IN WEST GERMANY! GASSINGS TOOK PLACE IN GERMANY PROPER!

15. http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj77/maitles.htm

A review of Daniel Goldhagen’s book, Hitler’s Willing Executioners, which is about the “Hiwis” and the “SS” and “Police”; and some criticism of it.  Controversial Hunter College Professor Norman Finkelstein attacked it, but I think the book had a lot of merit. It showed how the propaganda worked on people, and how the ordinary Policemen and the Wehrmacht cooperated. Where the book was criticized was in failing to note that there were elements of compulsion and also some resistance in society that was too small to be effective.

16.  NARRATED BY ALFRED HITCHCOCK, the camp liberated is I believe “BERGEN-BELSEN” . Extremely shocking footage. This film is about 45 minutes long, and is extremely distressing.

http://naziwarcrimes.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/frontline-on-the-holocaust/#comment-359

Well. There you have it. Sixteen damning pieces of evidence, footage and testimony, and some supporting material. I have more plastered in the comments sections, but there is so much evidence I cannot organize it all. I just wanted people to take a look at some of the evidence.

RESOLVED: The Holocaust happened.

Controversial Ideas

24/07/2009 by paolosilv

The Committee to Outlaw Thought will convene at Noon.

No, seriously, I guess the real problem is “ideas”. Think of all the people who have died because of ideas that no one likes. Mein kampf; Das Kapital, The Social Contract of Jean Jacques Rousseau, blamed for the French Revolution; the American Declaration of Independence… all sorts of mischief caused by ideas, bad or good.

They defeated the brown plague, the Nazis, but can they really defeat an idea, a philosophy, that one part of the human race, or one race, should absolutely dominate the others? It’s a disgusting idea, but it’s not the last bad one. Mao’s Little Red Book caused people to go mad en masse, and attack their families. I can go  and purchase a copy right now. Should I have that right? I got through about two pages of “Mein Kampf” and I couldn’t stomach anymore of this drivel. So badly written. But if somone who knew how to write were to forge those ideas again? Do you have that much confidence in humanity that it would have no effect? It seems that violence-torn societies are more prone than others for incendiary ideas to circulate through them, spread by wily politicians and hungry,  impecunious authors.

I mean, people are dying right now because of the Koran. Should it be banned? Doesn’t society, any society,  have the right to protect itself from mass lunacy?

Should some movies be banned? Marijuana? Propaganda?

The American experiment was based on such optimism, that enlightenment and education would prevail. Are they? Bloody hell no. Every day it’s another tragedy in this country.

Come to think of it, it was wicked old Friedrich Nietzsche who coined the phrase, “Das Ubermensch”.  To this day nobody knows exactly what he meant by that. Hitler just stole the idea and twisted it around a bit.

Am pessimistic.

“Bring back the Guillotine!”